Update: On November 21, 2022 Rick Derringer provided the answer fans had been waiting for. He confirmed on his Facebook page that Lisa was the dancer in his viral online “Hang On Sloopy” video. At QZVX we knew that all along, but now it is 100% — Lisa Leonard Dalton danced in Rick’s 1975 music video.
Here’s the original information, including recent updates, that accompanied this article when it was published in May 2020:
As a kid, living in the NW corner of Washington State, I had great reception of Canadian radio stations. Those of us looking for an AM Top-40 radio station in 1965 and ’66 often heard the sound of C-FUN out of Vancouver, BC. The intro to this video harks back to those days.
“Hang On Sloopy” was #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in October 1965. Other records by The McCoys that received significant radio airplay included “Fever,” “Sorrow,” and “Come On Let’s Go.” Rick Derringer also produced records and played lead guitar with Edgar and Johnny Winter in the 1970s. He had a solo hit with “Rock and Roll Hootchie Koo” in 1974 (Billboard Hot 100 peak position #23).
Usually I post a very early rendition of a “Found Performance.” This is an exception. I have located two 1965 appearances by the original “McCoys.” But the video I chose is from 1975 and it will get your attention. It has an 80 million strong fan base.
Former McCoys’ vocalist, Rick Derringer, was filming a new music film to promote a remake of his former band’s hit single “Hang On Sloopy.” It wasn’t the new 1975 incarnation of the decade old song that got the attention of the fans. It was the blond dancing girl. The premise was that during the film shoot, a gorgeous girl would stroll by and spontaneously break into a sexy and captivating dance routine.
It didn’t take much of a detective work to debunk that theory. Girls like this don’t just wander down the street into a film set. This girl was obviously no ordinary passerby. After a decade of rumors, and one British woman, with zero connection to Derringer or the dance, trying to hint around that she had some connection to Derringer. In 2021 t was revealed that Lisa Leonard Dalton, an American, is the authentic Sloopy Girl.
The urban legend that the “Hang On Sloopy” dancer was the British party planner, or that she had been married to singer Rick Derringer, were discredited. If you’ve heard that false rumor, then you need to see “Sloopy Wives-Fact and Fiction” (Read it HERE ). The meticulously documented article answers the questions: How old are these ladies and who was actually married to Rick Derringer? At the time of her 1975 performance Lisa Leonard Dalton was 19 years old. A California girl, she came to the attention of the filmmakers when she won the 1974 dance competition at Gazzarri’s, a popular Hollywood nightclub. For anyone with any remaining interest in Brewer, the answers to some of the questions that inevitably come up about her can be found in the British Newspaper Archives. (Click HERE to view an assortment of clippings).
Several music tracks have accompanied this 1975 video in its online life. In my original video below, I had edited into the video the 1965 hit version of “Hang On Sloopy.” I later regretted doing that: It was nearly impossible to get a good lip sync with the singer, because the two versions of the song were so different. But, the bigger issue was it created confusion. A number of online videos include the old 1965 song dubbed over the 1975 dance video. Part of the mistaken identity can be traced to viewers thinking the video was filmed ten years earlier than it actually was. In fact, the 1975 version of “Hang On Sloopy” that should go with the video was a reggae cover with steel drums and a marimba. The reggae cover of “Hang On Sloopy” came out on Rick Derringer’s 1975 album “Spring Fever” and at that time the “Sloopy” track was also, once again, released as a 45 RPM single.
In researching this project, I came across a family photo of Lisa Leonard Dalton dating back to 2010. I knew that her facial expression was familiar to me. Sure enough, her expression and appearance perfectly matched the “Sloopy Girl” dancer. Nobody needs facial recognition software to realize that even 35 years later, this is the same woman. To read the story of the search for “Sloopy Girl,” check out “Deconstructing a Myth: Sloopy Girl.” You can watch it by clicking HERE.
Editorial Update (Feb. 2022)
Lisa Leonard Dalton appeared in an on-camera interview in January 2022. It is the first in a series of several short video interviews. To watch “Up-Close & Personal in Tennessee” click HERE.
When the Deconstructing a Myth video was released in summer 2021 it went viral. Shortly afterwards, YouTube Channels and entertainment websites updated their information to reflect that Lisa Leonard Dalton is the authentic “Sloopy Girl.” The narrative has certainly changed. When entering Lisa Leonard Dalton’s name in a search engine, it’s readily apparent that she now has a strong online presence as the mysterious “Hang on Sloopy” dancer. To learn more about our discovery that Lisa Leonard Dalton is the Sloopy Girl, please click HERE.
Overwhelmingly, thousands of “Sloopy Girl” fans embraced the truth. They asked Lisa to share current photos and to record a cell phone video. On November 5, 2021, Lisa accommodated those requests. While attending a Lynyrd Skynyrd concert in Knoxville, two of Lisa’s friends took some pictures and she recorded a video greeting. Two of the new photos are included below. To watch Lisa Leonard Dalton’s new video, called November Night in Tennessee, please click HERE. And check out Lisa’s “Sloopy Girl” website at https://lisasloopygirl.com/
Presently editor and historical writer with QZVX.COM in Seattle. Former radio broadcaster and radio station owner, 1970-1999. Journalism and speech communications degrees. I enjoy researching articles and online reporting that allows me to meld together words, audio and video. P.S. I appreciate and encourage reader comments and opinions. View other articles by Steven Smith
Lisa is very pretty and a very nice woman. She is fun to talk to.
Still a very beautiful woman and I’m not being polite about that. She literally is.
Joe..Lisa is a very nice lady. I am so glad I was in the right place at the right time to help her tell her story and to reveal the truth. Lightning struck once that day she performed her iconic Sloopy dance. You are correct. Her dancing makes the video!
I will always keep this lady close to my heart. She was and is an inspiration.
I loved the song but Lisa was it.
Paul..you are part of an exclusive club of millions.
Gorgeuse im in love with an older woman
Derek….correct on all counts. I might add that version is not The McCoys. Some backing band Rick put together in the 1970s.
Thank you Steve for clearing this up.
Many think it is Liz Brewer..not so..and the video is from 1975, not the sixties…it is Lisa Leonard Dalton.
I wish people would read more and not insert their stupid commentary before reading factual info.
The real Liz Derringer…Liz Agriss Derringer from NYC …has remarried. Her current husband told us she said Rick did not know the girl. She was a studio backlot girl who danced and left. That describes Lisa’s role. Twice I have asked Liz Brewer in UK if she was the dancer. She replied but would not say yes or no. She was never married to Rick. His wives were the real Liz Derringer from NYC…Dyan Buckelew Derringer and current wife Jenda (Brenda Jean). When you eliminate Liz Brewer as Rick’s wife ( mand when his actual wife Liz Agriss Derringer confirmed it was not her dancing, it destroys the whole urban legend that it was Rick’s wife dancing. Then somebody messed it up more by falsely linking Rick and Liz in the UK in matrimony. Maybe I need to clarify Rick’s marriages with photos and years. Lisa Leonard Dalton has photos with 99% matches in facial recognition. Her story makes sense and there are 20 or more witnesses who knew her in 1975. Some of whom knew she had the gig and others who recognize her immediately. Lisa Leonard Dalton is Sloopy Girl.
How hard is it to find someone in the music industry to contact Rick Derringer and ask him if he or any band members spoke with the dancer. If someone did, did the dancer speak with a British accent.
watch the video.
why is this even a question at this point.
William…..I just realized you were commenting at the original post when we were hunting Sloopy Girl. Check out this one … we found her.
https://www.qzvx.com/2021/09/20/deconstructing-a-myth-sloopy-girl-lisa-leonard-dalton/
Jaime…thanks for the comment. We are almost set to release our findings. Lots of double checking going on now.
Was great love the dancing Lisa Is fantastic look great.
Steven….we have the answer as to her identity. And we are working on the story. I am in regular contact with Sloopy Girl. Her information removes any reasonable doubt as to the identity of the dancer. Hope to get it all out, including a video and an article, this month. Gary Burleigh Shannon, formerly KJR in Seattle, did an awesome job narrating the to be released video. We had hoped that if enough people knew we were trying to ID the girl that something would break. And after a year of looking it did. Before we release it all, we are verifying facts, editing and producing and that takes time.
Steven, looking at the photos, the dancer was definitely NOT Liz Derringer. I can’t say if it was Liz Brewer, but there is a remarkable resemblance between her photos and those of the dancer.
Hi, this is from Brazil, my name is Denilson Martins.
The song was very successful here in a version called “pobre menina” (poor girl). Still in the 1960s. The singers of this version were called “Leno & Lilian”, and here it was number one on the charts. The 60’s version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsSvDt1izEQ
The same version already in this century: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn8hZWzrZpY
I’m also quite curious to know who the sexy dancer in this video is, but I already have my bet…based on the photos, Lisa Dalton looks very similar to our goddess of beauty and swagger.
Denilson…a team of us are working right now on getting the reveal out based on our findings. It will include a story here and a video as well. One of the voices will be the real Sloopy Girl….now in her mid-sixties. I am curious…far as I know…at this time the only Lisa Dalton photos that come up online are an actress named Lisa Loving Dalton. And that is not the same Lisa Dalton leaving comments on Sloopy videos. I contacted Lisa Loving Dalton months ago and she did not know what I was talking about. There is a mysterious and publicly unknown Lisa Dalton under the radar. I am certain there will be surprises, shocks and reverberations from this surprising reveal. We hope to get it all public in August but lots of fact checking involved and video production. Thanks for the comment from Brazil.
Only Jason and I know what we got here. And we are proceeding carefully.
As an FYI…this case is about to be closed. QZVX now has a positive ID on the dancer that also includes witnesses who knew her in 1975 and before. I am presently putting it all together…much like a prior post I did revealing the status of Greg Aust. This dancing girl video…posted at youtube by different people.. has been viewed online around 50 million plus times with thousands of comments. I do not want to reveal too much until it is complete…other than I will say millions of followers of the dancing girl video will be shocked with the outcome.
Elle…I think I finally have a pretty good trail to the final answer….which is harder to come by than expected. The pieces are slowly coming together. Some of the comments here at PSM, when I was able to source them, are coming from actual family members of the three women it might be…Liz Agriss Derringer, Liz Brewer in the UK and Lisa Dalton. Yes….I now believe Lisa is a serious possibility and not somebody simply leaving comments at youtube.
https://www.qzvx.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/PSM-Liz-Pix.jpg
The link above includes only a few of the photos I have. All of the upper pics are stills of the dancing girl from the Sloopy video. The second row down consists of Liz “Agriss” Derringer photos. She married Rick Derringer in Manhattan in 1969, marriage license 2226…so no arguing that it is Liz Brewer in the UK. Her maiden name was Agriss..different lady all together. Liz Agriss and Rick were married about 20 years, so she was his wife during the Sloopy shoot. Most of these shots were taken in reasonably close proximity to the Sloopy video. Note the photo at the far right in row 2 is Liz Agriss Derringer with Rick, after they had split, and it was taken in the last ten years or so.
Third row down includes various shots of Liz Brewer in the UK. The wedding shots were about 5 years before the Sloopy video. But these are fairly close proximity time wise. To bring home the point she is a Brit, the far right shot in the row is what Liz Brewer looks like now….standing with Boris Johnson. Liz Brewer never was married to Rick Derringer. She was married once only to John Rendall who did a documentary film called “A Lion named Christian”…about a cub he raised in London that was eventually introduced back into the wild in Africa. The couple divorced and she never married again.
The photo at the very bottom was sent to me by Liz Brewer in the UK when I asked her if she was the dancer. She was coy…wrote a message on the order of “not telling, but this photo was me in Portugal after I first left home…what do you think?”
I have more information about Rick’s wives, what happened when. but I have yet to put it all together. But all these photos should clarify that there are two different ladies named Liz. And when google and those commenting say it is Liz Brewer Derringer dancing…that is rubbish. If the dancer was Rick’s wife…then it had to be Liz Agriss Derringer. If it was Liz Brewer dancing then the dancer was not his wife at all…she was the Brit Liz Brewer who was not romantically tied to Rick. Different Liz! Since so many people online are interested in this story, I thought this information and these photos might lead to more informed speculation. Because it is way off and running wild now.
So what do all of you thousands of online detectives out there think? Is the dancer one of the two different ladies named Liz…or do we need to keep looking?
The bottom picture is the dancer in the Sloopy video. No doubts in my mind whatsoever. The way she holds her mouth open in every pic you have is consistent with Sloopy’s mouth.
I for one appreciate all of your research and effort into this. I accept Liz Agriss Derringer from all the photos I have seen of her too. I wish that man that emailed me would come back with an answer but I don’t expect him to at this late date. Thanks again.
Your observations are mine as well. She also has a fan base of two or three people…far as I can tell in one family…who promote her claims.
Thanks (sarcastically) now I go from three potential dancers….Liz Derringer and Liz Brewer (two different women) and the ethereal Lisa Dalton to adding to the mix Grannie, Martin and Jason….so instead of limiting my suspects they just doubled,
I was the dancing lady and what a tribute that was to the make-up artist.
Rock and Roll, Hoochie Koo!
when was this made because my grandma is the dancing lady. all jokes aside!!
1976 film…Angela,tell us more about your grandma! I would interview her. Is your grandma Lisa Dalton? Or another lady? Send me an email at steven-L-smith@comcast.net
I thought the edit had taken to correct the email address you have for the comcast one for Angela to use. It has the Kingofthehouse. I hope that is still a good one. Also, I kinda got excited today because I have reached out to a couple of people who interviewed, wrote about and knows Liz Derringer. One responded back to me today and said he would call her and get back with me on what she says in a couple of days. If it happens, I will forward that to you.
Angelina…I am interested in the info and photos you sent but need to get answers to some questions.
I have sent the Lisa Dalton who says she is the dancer your link so you can interview her. She says she would love to interview with you. I am looking forward to her proof and how she convinces you. I wish you would email me when and if she contacts you. Here is the text.
Ease54 6 months ago
OK…so is this the Sloopy dancer, or not?
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lisa dalton
lisa dalton
2 months ago
No it is Not!
I am Sloopy 😁
Elle
Elle
26 minutes ago
No, Liz Brewer that was Rick’s wife and the dancer on the original video is American. Here is an interview with her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6An6546UUOo
Elle
Elle
26 minutes ago
@lisa dalton Pudget Sound Media wants to interview you. Why haven’t you accepted?
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lisa dalton
10 minutes ago
@Elle it is I !! Lisa !!!
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lisa dalton
9 minutes ago
@Elle I would love an interview !!!
shes not a social media person that is my grandmother. how does she even get an interview.
Angelina, She has been sent the information on how to contact Steven by me about 4 times. So, in hopes that you will help her navigate and upload information here is the email you should use. kingofthehouse@comcast.net Steven Smith has been trying to talk with her for at least a year that I have seen posts back to. He will definitely be the one to help set the record straight, which a lot of us would like to see happen. You had said in a post on YouTube you would give me your social contact but Steven is the one with the experience and connections to get her story out there. She has said that she won a contest in one post. One post said she was paid $200 to dance. Another post said she just didn’t remember details that well and several months ago she made a post that she was working on posting the proof. Surely you can see why people won’t just take her word for it. Not to be mean, it’s just that anyone can make that claim. So, being her granddaughter, it would be awesome if you could help upload to the email address what she may have. I cannot imagine her not having photographs from the shoot back then. It had to be an exciting once in a lifetime event for her young age and to think she has Nothing as proof is odd, to say the least. Thanks for helping your grandmother set the record straight! Elle
For those who are not clear on this. Angelina stating it is her grandma dancing is NOT introducing another possibility. Her grandma is the lady called Lisa Dalton.
Elle,
That is a newer video and I had never seen the interview….thanks. But a few clarifications on your intro to it. The lady in the video you linked to IS NOT British. Her maiden name is Agriss and she was married to Rick when Sloopy was filmed. They were married about 20 years, I have dates in my file and copies of marriage license info. Then and now she went by Liz Derringer. Then and now she is tight with Bebe Buell…best friends. Her name was never Brewer and she might have visited the UK but she is American from NY. Rick was married three times total. After Agriss to Dyan and now to Jenda (nickname). Never to another Liz or anyone named Brewer.
The real Liz Brewer is British and a completely different person. She was married once only, not to Rick, and her then husband was featured in a documentary about a lion cub raised in London that was successfully relocated to Africa. She lived the rock and nightclub life so there is some possibility she was the dancer in Sloopy…although she had no known connection to Rick. So we have two potential Lizzes…Derringer and Brewer. There is no such thing as the made up internet dancer Liz “Brewer” Derringer. If the Sloopy dancer truly was “married” to Rick then the only possible person was Liz Agriss Derringer. Or if the dancer really was Liz Brewer then the only option would be Liz Brewer the event planner and etiquette expert in the UK….who was never Rick’s wife.
Then we hear from Lisa Dalton. Seriously, I have no clue if she even exists or if it is a person messing with us. She complains of being slighted, but otherwise cannot come up with a photo of herself when sHe was allegedly a dancer in the Hollywood nightclub Gazzaris. If you can motivate Lisa to actually communicate with us at PSM…then that would be great and appreciated.
As you can tell, I have gone to extensive work in unraveling this mystery But I am still not complete with my investigation. Just for the record, I do have correspondence from one of the two Lizzes saying she was the dancer. But I am sitting on that as I verify more of the story. I want to get this messed up story right. Google has it totally screwed up…leading to people assuming the two Lizzes are one and the same. not!
Thanks, I have never heard that maiden name of Liz. Glad you set the record straight! I look forward to what you find out.
Elle..I will post a couple photos soon. Stand by,
I don’t understand. Will someone be able to respond if they want to to my email? Why or why not?
Cindy…If you ask a question we will try to answer. You can email me at.. kingofthehouse@comcast.net
I have had at least four people contact me stating they are the dancer, their neighbor is, their wife is. Two who have not contacted me to claim they are the dancer are the two women it is most likely to be….Liz Derringer in NY or Liz Brewer in the UK. Lisa Dalton did leave me a message in the last few weeks that she is looking for a photo. Most of the people leaving messages about Lisa are Lisa herself or those she has convinced she got the Sloopy gig after winning a dance contest. It sounds plausible, but since this video has been around since mid-70s and it has been viewed millions of times it seems it would have been a big enough deal she would have some sort of memorabilia of the moment….an era appropriate photo. I got a snapshot from Liz Brewer in the UK when I asked her about it. As a tease she sent a photo of herself from the era. It was like…”you asked, so what do you think? Was it me or not”?
She is LISA DALTON she is 65 years and she contacted me to confirm it.
See YouTube.
See Youtube for what? Videos on how to apply makeup? Life Hacks? What are you babbling about? You give no definitive answers. Just another person throwing out a claim with nothing to back it up. Thanks for playing though. You get no consolation prize.
Nigel, You may be right. We are looking into it seriously.
That comment is pretty vague. Claiming to know who it is, not suggesting whom. I suspect a supporter of the Lisa Dalton claim. Vs. Liz Brewer in UK or Liz Derringer, who actually was married to Rick Derringer, and now lives in NY.
I have known “Sloppy” for years, but just found the video 6 yrs ago. There was no doubt it was her when we watched the video. So aside for 15 minutes of fame what is this worth to her? And yes there is more than enough proof it is indeed her.
Again, someone claiming to have knowledge, but giving no proof to substantiate the identity. It remains a mystery who “Sloppy” actually is.
Nick….I know you are the brother in law of one of the ladies claiming to be the dancer. That you are married to her sister. I do not know of any money in this venture for the dancer, but it seems very important to her to set the record straight. So I am attempting to do that because it is an interesting story with lots of people watching it. The video I put together, we link to, has over a million views. But none of that money comes to us. The ads stuck in it go to the publisher of Hang on Sloopy the song or maybe youtube…not to me or QZVX.
I think a picture of Lisa, or documentation Lisa can provide from the record company or her business association with the video maker would be satisfactory. We await this proof Lisa. Bring it!
I have now been sent photos of Lisa. It is possible that she is the dancer. But I need to get the whole story to corroborate details. I am quite sure it is one of the two Liz’s or Lisa. I have eliminated one. Hoping to get further contacts from Lisa or her family.
Lisa, you post this at various websites yet, when asked to do so, you provide no corroboration at all…not even a photo of you in the mid seventies. I have had two other people write and say they were the dancer or, in one case, it was his wife. I doubt them. And I have seen a written Email from one or the two Lizs, I am not saying if it is Liz Brewer or Derringer …they are two different ladies….in which one says matter of factly she is the dancer. I have agreed not to disclose that claim just yet, as she wishes to discuss it in an upcoming book. Both of the Lizs are published authors. So if you want to be taken seriously on this one you need to provide some sort of evidence even if it is thin.
Steven, I have sent Lisa Dalton your request for an interview about 5 times. Tonight she acted like she never knew you had been trying to contact her and claimed she would Love to do an interview with you. She sounds more like a troll looking for attention than someone who wants to set the truth. I do hope she contacts you and puts this to rest.
It is Not Liz Brewer.
I know this because I am the dancer in the video!!
Well I used to think it was Liz Brewer, but not sure now. There’s a Lisa Dalton on various youtube threads showing that vid that claims it’s her. No idea………… it did change my view a bit, as it very easily could’ve been just assumed it was Brewer, cuz she was married to Derringer.
Below is from youtube thread, where Lisa Dalton claims its her.
“Dancer is NOT Liz Brewer. It is I !! My name is Lisa Dalton
lisa dalton
lisa dalton
3 weeks ago
Its not been quite 50 years since, but yea I had no idea! Hi I am Lisa, the dancer in video
lisa dalton
lisa dalton
3 weeks ago
@Richard Bool sorry but it is not Liz – it is I , Lisa 😁
lisa dalton
lisa dalton
3 weeks ago
@DESMOND FITZGERALD I am not rich. I was paid a couple hundred to make video. You are right – I could have really been someone! Had the wrong guy in my life
lisa dalton
lisa dalton
3 weeks ago
@ConvairDart106 dancer is not Liz!!”
Who knows?
John Seamus, It’s odd she told you she was paid when she claims she won a contest to get to be the dancing girl and never mentions she was paid. Also, I have found post from her going back months saying she is working on getting the proof where she can show everyone it is her. If Lisa Dalton is indeed the girl dancing, it shouldn’t be that hard to prove. With her claims that she forgot a lot of details and statement of why should she lie, it is just odd. I don’t care if it’s her, but she needs to put up or shut up.
And there is the SDR Show interview where Bebe Buell and Liz Brewer once married to Rick is in. She absolutely looks like it could have been her.
Elle…clarification. That IS NOT Liz Brewer in the video you linked to. That is Liz, maiden name Agriss, who is American and goes by the name Liz Derringer. Both are on Facebook. Liz Brewer looks nothing like that lady and she is the Brit. They are two different ladies. The woman in this video interview with Bebe was never named Brewer! But she was married to Rick Derringer. She is Liz Agriss Derringer. Rick’s ex for sure…but was she the dancer? When I am in my office I will post a couple photos to make this clear. Google images has it totally screwed up.
John….I think at QZVX we are very close to providing a 95 percent for sure answer. And if it turns out as I expect, it will create quite an online surprise.
A couple things. It is incorrect that Brewer was ever married to Rick. Liz Derringer’s maiden name was Liz Agriss. She is American, Brewer had no connection to Rick ever. It’s all online hogwash. See the article here at QZVX called Sloopy Wives. After all the years of research at QZVX, Rick Derringer announced on Facebook last November that the dancer was Lisa…and NOT his ex Liz Agriss nor Liz the Brit..whom he does not know. It is disappointing that Brewer never cleared up all the false information online even the most ridiculous parts. I think she basked in the false but sexy mystique. Brewer was always the wrong age. She turned 80 yesterday. The video was shot in 1975. Brewer was in her 30s at the time, the actual dancer…Lisa Leonard Dalton…really was a dancing girl at age 19.
Charles, the dancer may be Liz but ignore that video. That is not her actual interview. A guy named JC Mills with a YouTube account put that together and it is just a mock up with misinformation. For example, Melania Trump, per his caption, is tight with Liz Brewer in the UK. In fact she plans parties for Trump’s ex-wife Ivana….not Melania. The fellow posting has other videos at his site that he made up…call them spoofs. The actual book promotion video at Brewer’s official account has none of the dancing girl. It is straight interview and longer…..he cut a portion out of it. Again, she may be the dancer based on what we are finding out from valid sources, including contact with Liz Brewer herself, who was never married to Rick Derringer as the online story goes, but this Sloopy video cut into a copied Liz promo interview is by a guy guessing only. It is not a hint or acknowledgement from the real Liz Brewer that she is dancing girl. Liz indicated to me that she loves the speculation and chatter all around the Sloopy video, and she has a longterm plan for revealing any connection she might have to the video….but she is in no big rush.
It’s definitely Liz Brewer. And the recording that goes with the video can be heard on her video advertising her book.
It is not the original recording that belongs with this video.
Note June 2021: We have seen Peter’s reply from Liz in the UK. When QZVX contacted her and asked her to go on record as the dancer she declined. She said she was writing memoirs and would discuss the Sloopy video then. Also she sent a photo of herself of the same vintage as the video …which is linked to farther down in this thread.
Hi Steven,
I have contacted Liz Brewer herself and she confirms she is the dancing girl in the video. I can send you a screenshot of her email to me if you like.
Hi, Love the song, love the dancer. If and when you find out for sure who the dancer is, please let me know. Thank you. Lilly
Lillian….my video of the dancing girl is now getting 50,000 hits a day at youtube, and Lisa Dalton…who claims to be the dancer.. is commenting every week or so. I have left replies to her hoping she will instead of simply commenting contact me. If her story holds up I would be happy to acknowledge her role in the video at QZVX and YouTube. But I have had contacts from other sources claiming to be affiliated with the video so I need to talk to any such people before crediting them.
Arnie…could be. So many people are taking a look at the photos and the video that it would be nice to eventually get an answer. This is an amazingly popular topic online. The speculation seems to be down to two women, but the few photos I have seen of the other choice when she was younger have not persuaded me her way either. Eventually I expect to get a totally convincing… less speculative…answer.
The girl Liz has fuller lips, eyes are farther apart, and her face looks wider at the cheeks also her nose is wider at the base.
Note: My view on this has sibcc changed. Read farther down for more recent developments.
That is my view unless someone can convince me otherwise. I kind of expect to hear from the other lady one of these days.
Same chick. (I am a sexist beast) There is no doubt when you look at the two. I am not a forensics specialist, but I play one on tv.
I present this comment in the realm of not very important but sort of intriguing. I knew this “Found Performance” video I posted back in May was historically popular. In my take on it, I substituted the original 1966 version of Sloopy as the sound track vs. a mid-70s variation when Rick Derringer of the original McCoys formed a new band called “Derringer.” So the video is that band, the audio is the hit. In looking at the stats, here at PSM, this Found Performance has been viewed probably 3x more than my other “music video” Found Performances. And over at youtube, where I host this one, it has approaching 8000 hits…again that’s way beyond my other music related videos. Bottom line: it is popular. Probably because of the sexy girl, but also there are argumentative aspects. The main theory espoused was that the dancing girl, identified as Liz Brewer (wife of Rick Derringer at the time) later became the Liz Brewer who is now a party planner and socialite in the UK. I think that is false and is fed in part because when viewing the Sloopy video….youtube recognizes the name Liz Brewer and feeds teasers for videos featuring the UK woman of that same name. I initially thought they might be one and the same but that I no longer believe. If you care enough to wonder why, then look at the many comments here. One of the credible comments was from a man who said he lived by Rick and Liz and he for sure said that was her dancing and that she WAS NOT the Brit. Today youtube sent me a message that someone had commented that the dancer was not Liz Brewer, it was a woman named Lisa Dalton. I googled her name and there is a dancer of that name. However, unless I hear otherwise in a convincing manner….and I just might with all the comments at youtube and here…I believe that Rick’s wife Liz was the dancer. Now I am not a police ID specialist. But, with the help of Jason a few months back, we found a photo from a fan magazine of Rick’s wife Liz Brewer taken around the same time the video was produced. There are enough points of similarity between the two photos (real Liz and dancing girl) to persuade me that the dancer is the Liz Brewer Derringer who was married to Rick Derringer. See what you think in the mash-up at the link below. Liz from the fan mag left, dancing girl in a similar pose at the right.
http://qzvx.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Dancer.png
Jason…thanks for mentioning that article. It was more contemporary than most others I have seen. Here is a link for anyone interested. https://whitehotmagazine.com/articles/in-conversation-with-elizabeth-derringer/2609
Liz’ maiden name was Brewer. There is very little info on Liz since a 2012 interview on WhiteHotMagazine.com. If Liz Derringer remarried, it is a very well kept secret.
Jason…now having a better handle on this that is actually not the case Rick’s first wife from 1969 to early ’90s was maiden name Elizabeth Agriss from NYC. She was never named Brewer. That is an online myth posted by people who got it wrong and Google, along with Getty Images and YouTube magnify the error. Also, I can verify 100 percent that Liz Derringer has remarried and is currently married, Now Liz Brewer in the UK, far as I can tell, has always been “Brewer.” She was married once for a few years in the ’70s, but if she took her husband’s last name at all, she switched back after the divorce. It is impossible to track these connections in a regular online search. It is too messed up. The only successes come from deep genealogy searches of archival marriage licenses, divorce records, old high school yearbooks. Luckily I have had some good help along the way.
Dick,
Thanks for the comment. I am doing considerable snooping into this and my initial theory of who is who was largely formed from the muddled mess Google has created regarding the two different ladies named Liz.
Ok guys I will set the record straight — I am married to Liz and according to her a girl was walking by in 1965 when the band was recording sloopy and she impromptu starting dancing. The video guy thought it would be great to include her. Nobody asked her name and she just walked off. It was not Liz (BTW her name is NOT Brewer) .
Dick….we get many comments here, many of them made up. After considerable research, a few new doors opening up, I now believe yours is authentic. I am also convinced as you say that Liz Derringer, who you say you are married to, is not the dancer. I also know that her maiden name was never Brewer. I have seen her 1969 NYC marriage license to Rick with names listed. I also know Google has anyone interested in this totally confused. Search for Liz Derringer and half the hits are Liz Brewer and the opposite holds true as well. In mass media two different ladies named Liz have been morphed into one. And I do appreciate your comment that Liz Derringer does not know the identity of the dancer. I now take what you say seriously and appreciate the info.
OK Steven…I am with you on your conclusion…after reading the link, it clears things up fairly well…Rick used his wife to boogie her butt for us in that remade video!…She cannot be the lady in Britain that does the Miss Manners stuff!….Being a Hendrix fanatic, I was very interested in the part where Ricks EX talked about actually hanging out at the Record Plant studio where Jimi did much of his recording…he did have a habit of actually writing some of his lyrics, while also laying down tracks…and she and Rick witnessed that stuff happening!…I never realized that Jimi and Rick were hanging out that casually, but it makes sense…It is funny about guitarists, they usually have a big ego–Rick, in an interview, stated that Jimi learned licks from him, and he learned licks from Hendrix…inferring they were equal in ability….I doubt that!…..thanks for the informative link.
Jack….you got that right. From what I read, Rick wrote ‘Hootchie Koo’ for Johnny Winter, and it was popular as an album cut of his in 1970. Then Edgar put it on an album in ’72 and Derringer did his own version….that was a single in ’73. The albums by the two Winter bros charted on Billboard albums and Derringer’s single made the Billboard singles chart for 14 weeks peaking in the top 20 in 1974.
I tried to do some research on Liz , ostensibly the hottie in that remade/updated video….I am confused a little bit….Derringer made this remake video when, 45 years ago?He would have been in his late 20s at that time….and the lady dancing–supposedly his wife at the time…would have been even older, around 35 in the mid-70s….but it does indeed look like her!….I cannot find when she and Derringer split…he did admit, that in the 70s they were both party animals…just doesnt seem likely that she could look that great at 35…and Rick looks younger than late 20s….something does not add up!
Jack…I was intrigued by this topic of Liz as well. I do not have all the answers but can fill in some blanks. She was married to Rick for 22 years. Now, what I am not so sure of, is that she is the same Liz who is the UK expert on manners. On the other hand, that woman does claim to have been a rock n roll party animal. So maybe. That particular video was from 75 or 76…so Rick was 28 or 29. I cannot determine the age of Liz, cant find it online, but I suspect about the same. Part of her bio is she grew up as a close friend of Steven Tyler. In my experience at that age kids have friends of a similar age. Tyler is one year younger than Rick. And as I write this, wiki has Rick at 74. Derringer has a Facebook page, with that video…but he says nothing about the girl. I am going to put a photo and a link below. In this photo, I am about 99.99 percent sure or more the girl on the right…Liz Brewer Derringer… is the dancing girl. And in the next link, that looks like the same person 40 years later and the photos of her younger days are the dancing girl. So I am convinced the dancer was Liz Brewer Derringer, but I do not know if it is the same “Miss Manners” who is writing books and popular in the UK. And, if she was raised in the UK or AU or wherever, then how would she have grown up with Steven Tyler in New York? I love digging into this sort of stuff.
https://whitehotmagazine.com/articles/in-conversation-with-elizabeth-derringer/2609
Note: I wrote this comment more than a year ago and additional information has trickled in. My opinion as to Sloopy’s identity has changed. But further research is taking place. Read down the thread of comments to find out more current status.
Followup….I have decided the Miss Manners in the UK is definitely not the same Liz Brewer who danced in the video or was married to Derringer. In reading the article at the link above, Liz Derringer speaks of growing up in NY and going to school with Steven Tyler. Meanwhile the British lady, whom the internet seems to say is the one and the same dancer, has a series of videos out describing her life and I reviewed one. She speaks of growing up in London and moving to Portugal to start a nightclub as a young adult. She is not talking about hanging with Andy Warhol like Liz Derringer did.
OK…I too have watched her series of interviews on youtube, promoting some book….my issue with the Miss Manners broad, is that she claims to have, after closing her club in Portugal (she was young in the mid 60s, maybe 22 or so when the club thing happened) she started another venue in London in late 66…and she claims that she hired a freshly arrived in London Jimi Hendrix, to play solo at her new place, for a couple of weeks…but this could not have reasonably happened, as Jimi was under contract already, being managed by Chazz Chandler, and busy putting together the Experience…so, I believe this Miss Manners woman is just spinning some things, to sell her book!….she would be around 76 or so now…a little older than Rick Derringer….she does look like ( much more aged) the gal shaking that thing, in the video….Derringer could clear this up, but I guess he doesn’t want to!…another mystery of Rock and Roll!
The dancer is Lisa Leonard. Now Dalton. She won Miss Gazzari in 1974, a disco in Hollywood and did this music video in 75. She is 65 now . Only similarity is they both have blonde hair. Lisa is 5’7.
Katy…see my last two comments from today in this thread. When we go to press we will have overwhelming evidence of Sloopy Girl’s identity.
Jack…I think the Liz Brewers are two different people. One from NYC who married Derringer, friend of Steven Tyler and is lower profile now. Then there is a Liz from UK who dabbled in the rock scene in Portugal and London. It is not like it is a rare name. In the interview with the Brit she never speaks of being married to a rock star. Because I think she was not. And Liz Derringer never speaks of running rock n roll nightclubs. Not uncommon, people online were curious about the dancing girl. They googled her name and came up with Miss Manners. 50 years later, an older blond woman does have some resemblance to Liz Derringer. My conclusion is Liz Derringer for sure the dancer, Miss Manners a different person with the same name.
You know, Steven, after watching the video a couple of times, then looking at the photo of Rick and these three girls, I wonder if the girl on Rick’s immediate left is the dancing girl from the video?
Now, I know the girl in the video is a blonde, but you know as well as I do that it’s not uncommon for women to change their hair color, so that’s a possibility. But this girl’s facial features are very similar, as are her breasts (size, shape and location on her chest wall). As a red-blooded, straight male, you know we notice these kinds of things!
Anyway, as the saying goes: “. . .so the plot thickens. . .” and it will eventually come out who “Dancing Girl” really is.
Maybe
It is not same woman. I grew up almost next door to him and his wife Liz on 13th St mid 1970s-early 1980s. His wife at the time, Liz, was a knockout MILF who filled my adolescent dreams. She had distinctive eyes, nose and lips and crazy perfect body which is seared into my memory from adolescence to late teens and absolutely NOT the etiquette woman.
I haven’t seen Mrs. Derringer (name she used sometimes was Liz Zehringer) in almost 40 years but that is 100% certain her dancing in the video. Fyi that is not from 1960’s, it’s mid 1970’s and the band is not mccoys but “Derringer”
G…..thanks for your personal verification that Liz Brewer did not become Miss Manners in the UK, which is an online theory. That is an interesting story and it must have been exciting to live near a rock star. As for this video, it is actually a morph of the mid-seventies era video with the original mid-sixties hit as the audio track. I thought the original song was far superior to the ’70s offering so did my own variation with the superior soundtrack. That is explained to some degree in the text. And Liz looks good no matter how you mix it. Your response is a cool aspect to our media site. We can ask questions and people with additional knowledge show up.
In the late 60s, the McCoys were, for awhile, the “house band” at the most popular late night club in NYC for the Rock crowd..The Scene….Derringer met, and jammed, with many of the hot guitarists of the time, including both Winter brothers, and Hendrix….I believe that your reference to Rock and Roll Hoochee Koo was a hit for Edgar Winter, but indeed featured Rick on lead guitar….at least, it sounds like Edgar on the vocal….BTW…The owner of The Scene was a young gay guy by the name of Steve Paul….he was responsible for bringing Johnny Winter to NYC from Texas, in late 1968, and was his manager for awhile….Steve Paul got tired of pressure from local neighborhoodmafia types, and closed this venue in later 1969…but several bootleg tapes from the many jam sessions there, exist, and are interesting to listen to!….there is a famous one, featuring Hendrix and a very drunk Jim Morrison, who had to be dragged offstage after creating a scene at the Scene!
I have heard that Hendrix,/ Morrison jam. Morrison was way out of hand. Very drunk. Even Jimi got tired of it after awhile.
Yes…Morrison actually snatched Jimi’s hat off his head at one point….the audience gasped at that!…also, for years many people thought that the 2nd guitarist on this tape was Johnny Winter…but that was not possible, as Winter was not in NYC until Steve Paul brought him up from Texas, in late 1968…the tape was recorded in early 1968–It was Rick Derringer–at least, that is what he says!..The bootleg tape was released several times in the early 70s…one LP was titled Sky High, the one I had was titled, “Woke up this morning, and Found Myself Dead”….Hendrix did sing that line on the tape, he spookily summarized his own death, by barbituate overdose, 18 Sept. 1970!